Comments on: Love, and other profound states http://www.mark-hildreth.com/2009/07/06/love-and-other-profound-states-2/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:20:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: primrose http://www.mark-hildreth.com/2009/07/06/love-and-other-profound-states-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1124 primrose Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:30:32 +0000 http://staging.mark-hildreth.com/?p=91#comment-1124 I believe that the forgiveness and the love that you offer someone who's hurt you has to last beyond you. You have to instil that feeling into your children too. Your 'other profound states' bleed into concepts of justice and honouring the memory of people wronged. It's messy. Look at Israel and the Palestinians as just one example of people locked in profound emotional states. :-( Your time on earth would certainly have been worthwhile - as long as the sentiment didn't die with you. Having said that, though, - that you must pass on forgiveness and love on to your children - it's a very difficult thing to deal with your own children being wronged. You're right to say it's a very human impulse to be destructive. The parental instinct that kicks in to defend your young is to destroy, I can vouch for that. I believe that the forgiveness and the love that you offer someone who’s hurt you has to last beyond you. You have to instil that feeling into your children too. Your ‘other profound states’ bleed into concepts of justice and honouring the memory of people wronged. It’s messy. Look at Israel and the Palestinians as just one example of people locked in profound emotional states. :-(
Your time on earth would certainly have been worthwhile – as long as the sentiment didn’t die with you. Having said that, though, – that you must pass on forgiveness and love on to your children – it’s a very difficult thing to deal with your own children being wronged. You’re right to say it’s a very human impulse to be destructive. The parental instinct that kicks in to defend your young is to destroy, I can vouch for that.

]]> By: amanda n. http://www.mark-hildreth.com/2009/07/06/love-and-other-profound-states-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1123 amanda n. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:27:14 +0000 http://staging.mark-hildreth.com/?p=91#comment-1123 Yeah I think it all starts with yourself and how much of the forgivness comes from deep with in yourself.Before forgiving someone you would have to be at peace with yourself.I could say more,but I'd just be repeating all your thoughts.Mark you have a keen mind that sees and hears so much.I love how you are always questioning your values in order to be a better person in this world. Btw I am watching the Michael Jackson memorial tribute service on tv and stevie wonder is performing.That me me think of you for a little bit. Yeah I think it all starts with yourself and how much of the forgivness comes from deep with in yourself.Before forgiving someone you would have to be at peace with yourself.I could say more,but I’d just be repeating all your thoughts.Mark you have a keen mind that sees and hears so much.I love how you are always questioning your values in order to be a better person in this world.

Btw I am watching the Michael Jackson memorial tribute service on tv and stevie wonder is performing.That me me think of you for a little bit.

]]> By: ncotton http://www.mark-hildreth.com/2009/07/06/love-and-other-profound-states-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1117 ncotton Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:40:49 +0000 http://staging.mark-hildreth.com/?p=91#comment-1117 Forgiveness of others -- those who have harmed you -- is truly a profound state, you are right. I have a question for you, Mark. Let's think not of someone who has harmed us, but of someone who has harmed a person we love. I agree when you say that to achieve forgiveness requires such a deep understanding that one is "not attached to anything in the outside world". But, and here is the question, if this were true, would this detachment also mean that one has ceased to love? I wonder what you think. Forgiveness of others — those who have harmed you — is truly a profound state, you are right.

I have a question for you, Mark. Let’s think not of someone who has harmed us, but of someone who has harmed a person we love. I agree when you say that to achieve forgiveness requires such a deep understanding that one is “not attached to anything in the outside world”. But, and here is the question, if this were true, would this detachment also mean that one has ceased to love? I wonder what you think.

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